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rising damp, damp proof cause installation, any green solution?
 Started by  NicolaGreen
 5 Nov 2009, 11:04 AM


Hi,
the insurance company told me today, that the damp and beginnings of mould, starting (rising) in a corner in the kitchen, going up to the bedroom above, are due to needing new damp proof cause.
 
I have a couple of questions and would appreciate your advice and experience:
 
1. the insurance expert only looked at the problem - should he have taken readings /samples of the wall to determine the cause? if so what should he have done. (please see background of the story)
 
2. if it is the damp proof cause, what would be a solution to get rid of the problem, and ideally a 'green' solution, i.e. not using nasty chemicals.
 
 
Info about property:
1950s semi detached house, brickwork, wall affected is the outside walls, facing south and west. There are no beds, cabinets etc in the affected area of kitchen and bedroom. Underneath the kitchen (and entire house) is about 1meter of 'empty' space, i.e. the walls are about 1 meter deep, air-bricks, ground-floor joists with wooden floor. The house is on the outside surrounded with a 80cm wide concreted foot-path, which runs up to the wall of the house, though there is about a 5mm gap between path and wall (loved by weeds). The houses brick walls are pebble dashed.
 
Important background:
In 2008 I had problems with the outside rainpipe which is in the south west corner, where the damage is, as the soak away overflowed, whenever it rained. That was repaired, insurance removing tree-roots to the west. There was at the time a slight rising damp in the kitchen about 1ft heigh, which was not treated.
In April 2009 the problem of the overflow reoccurred, and this time the insurance cut tree roots away going east from the soak away. They noted that the bricks next to the soak away were damage and concreted that over. Since then no further problems
The previous owners installed in the kitchen a polystyrene cladding, which was plastered over. Taking some of the polystyrene off, I discovered that the damp/mould went all the way up to the ceiling. It then as said started in the bedroom above (newly plastered in March 2008, no polystyrene.
 
2.a) For damp proof cause (if that's indeed the issue) I read on the internet about some electro-osmos solution - but I wonder about electro-smog
 
Any advice, suggestions welcome, thank you,
 
Nicola
tony
1) NO. 2) lime
 
your problem is not rising damp -- dont listen
 
check drain pipes and gutters and plumbing
 
Then suspect condensation as the cause
 
Stick a piece of glass to the wall with silicone if the room side gets wet it condensation.
 
NicolaGreen
Hi Tony,
thank you for the reply.
The gutters are newish, I would not see any damage to the outside drain pipe and gutters - what am I supposed to see?
 
I have not heard of the glass-wall-should, hence sorry about a possibly naive question:
do I stick the glass on the outside AND the inside wall?, for how long till condensation should show, and how big should the glass be?
 
Nicola
 
tony
Inside wall only and the glass can be any size a 100mm square or smaller
 
re drain pipes --go outside and look when it is raining -- just because they are new does not mean that they are OK.
 
fridihem
There are so many cowboys chasing the indians for work on peoples houses, its very easy to be cheated if one is not wide awake, and if you have little or no experience, you ARE going to be ripped off quicker than you can boil an egg.
 
NicolaGreen
Thanks Tony, will try the glass test.
 
Fridihem, I am awake, just not that knowledgeable -
 
any tips of what the problem could be
 
and how to find out
 
and what to do about it
 
are most welcomed.
 
Dear all, I am looking forward to your experiences and advice
 
Julian
Nicola
I suggest you try Tony's glass test. I lived for some years in a very damp flat (caused by cement render on the external stone walls) which had electro osmosis. There was no appreciable difference and I have seen no good evidence that such a system works at all. Do check outside in the rain - it can often be such a simple problem/solution.
 
NicolaGreen
Thank you Julian,
what I have so far found on the internet was not encouraging about electro osmosis.
 
I checked the gutters to my embarrassment I had forgotten about the heavy leaf-fall - gutter are cleaned now.
 
heard about window sills are important to check out too, whether they might direct rain-water onto the bottom of the wall...
 
will start a new thread for that.
 

   
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